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Newbie Comments..
Newbies Posted by Ponderor on Thursday February 07, 12:53AM, 2002
from the goofy-os's-and-where's-the-not-so-important-button dept.
Cutting my teeth on Zope with Squishdot.
3 cheers for plug-n-play instant gratification.

Running on freezope.org, Windows ME (2.4..), and OSX (2.4.3).

Comments below.

Squishdot Comments:
Using the slashdot look.
a) IE stored page caching at "automatically" is eratic--best use on setting to "Every visit to the page".
Is there an HTML/DTML tag to not allow caching?

b) When browsing I've periodically lost(looks like bad graphic link) and then magically reappeared the rounded corners and shadow graphics. Caching or somehting else?

c) Using Subject names that include raw ampersands and possibley other unfriendly HTML characters causes headaches when trying to edit posts. Perhaps a warning with a list of those characters could be added to the Subject modification page.

d) Finding new subject graphics must be a common web designers problem...any suggestions on decend free or cheap clip-art sites?

e) Any word on the fortune cookie quote generator?

Zope Notes:
f) Get a strange Zope crash on Windows me. Delete my log file and things are OK.

g) At what point to you retire Medusa (??) and use zope through Apache?

Misc:
h) Be warned when downloading source from sourceforge and using ME's built in zip handler,it hangs on files starting with "." (Encurred this trying to install far-related PythonCard.)

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    Re: Newbie Comments..
    by Jeb Banner on Tuesday February 19, 01:23AM, 2002
    What is the site you put up, I just registered,
    would like to take a look.

    As far a free clips go, you can did for hours and not find what you need. No advice there.

    Well not a great reply, but you have one now.
    Jeb B
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    Permissions
    by Jim Greer on Friday February 22, 08:50PM, 2002
    [ Yes, I've read the Security document. ]

    Let's pretend that I've created a folder under my Zope root folder; we'll call that folder 'Spam'.

    Let's pretend that we've turned off 'View' and 'Access Content Info' permissions for the Anonymous role at the root folder level. We're doing this cause nothing on this Zope site is public; everything will require authentication of some kind.

    Now, let's pretend that we create a Wiki web under the 'Spam' folder. To restrict access, we create 3 new roles for the Wiki: Creator, Editor, and User. We assign them the proper Wiki Permissions. Everything works swimmingly.

    Now, we create a Squishdot site under the 'Spam' folder. [ Remember, Anonymous doesn't have any permissions for Root and below. ]

    In the root folder we assign similar 'proper' permissions to the 3 roles we created above, with 'User' getting 'View', 'Access Content Info', and 'Query TinyTable Data' permissions. Should be enough to view Squish pages, eh?

    Sadly, no. That is, I could not get this to work; everytime I attempted to access the Squish main page, I got a error message complaining about 'ZopeTime' not being found. [ Sorry, can't recreate right now - will post again. ]

    Instead, I had to turn on 'View' and 'Access Content Info' permissions on the standard 'Authenticated User' role.

    To clarify, what I really want is:

    - only authenticated users belonging to a custom role to be able to view content
    - only authenticated users belonging to a different custom role to be able to post articles and replies.
    - only authenticated users belonging to a custom role to be able to moderate postings.

    The custom role bit doesn't seem to be working for me. Any suggestions?

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    Re: Newbie Comments..
    by Sierrathedog04 on Sunday March 03, 12:36PM, 2002
    I am a newbie too. I am interested is Squishdot instead of Slashdot because there are sites that will host a squishdot site for free while I learn to configure this product. I do not have to commit to fifty bucks a month up front.

    But one thing I notice is that Squishdot does not appear to have optional logins. Anyone can sign on as anyone else.

    Is their a login feature?
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    Re: Newbie Comments..
    by Chris Withers on Friday March 29, 07:31PM, 2002
    > Running on freezope.org, Windows ME (2.4..), and
    > OSX (2.4.3).

    None of those are good choices ;-)

    I'd recommend Linux and http://www.nipltd.net/Free

    > Is there an HTML/DTML tag to not allow caching?

    There is no way to control M$'s sack of shit :-(

    >b) When browsing I've periodically lost(looks
    > like bad graphic link) and then magically
    >reappeared the rounded corners and shadow
    >graphics. Caching or somehting else?

    Something weird and non-Squish related, no-one else has ever reported this.

    > c) Using Subject names that include raw
    > ampersands and possibley other unfriendly HTML
    > characters causes headaches when trying to edit
    > posts.

    How so? It shouldn't... perhaps you could file a bug report in the collector on this?

    > f) Get a strange Zope crash on Windows me.
    > Delete my log file and things are OK.

    Don't use Windows ME, it's a joke for this kind of app.

    > g) At what point to you retire Medusa (??) and
    > use zope through Apache?

    You don't. You put ZServer behind Apache using ProxyPass. Medusa is a part of ZServer.
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